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The anxiety weasels have returned, but I should manage a linkspam this week. It has not been a great mental health week for me, but I think I have identified the issues with my sound chambers for now (need more base-line microphone amps, peering at the chambers I )

Made the mistake of accidentally kicking off my own exclusionist trauma issues on a Metafilter post, and will be taking a break from there (have locked myself out of my account for the rest of the week). I am reminded why I tend to view lesbians with guarded suspicion until they demonstrate that they don't hold with the TERFy and SWERFy corners of queerpolitik, and regret bringing up both that particular article and tensions in queer-female-and-adjacent communities more generally.

No, seriously, the word lesbophobia is a dog whistle, and doubling down on it when I go "are you--are you intending to communicate this?" and insisting I'm speaking in bad faith is, ah. Fun.

Also today, I had a horrifically-ill student attempt to isolate his own DNA with a cheek rinse and fill it with so much phlegm that I couldn't figure out what the hell he was doing wrong when he showed me his sample. I did not, however, find this out before that student helpfully tried to dip a micropipette with no fucking tip into his cup of filthy sick spit-water and draw up a milliliter of fluid, and then get confused when the tip didn't fit on the micropipette afterwards. I think I got it dried out enough not to bleed everywhere, but I'm not sure. I definitely went back and splashed ethanol all over that sucker after he left.

I can only hope he had the same nasty bug I did a few weeks ago, so maybe I can fight it off before he infects everyone else.
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Date: 2019-02-19 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] notasupervillain
Ugh you have my sympathies all around

Date: 2019-02-19 09:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] felinejumper
I did not trawl the entire metafilter thread there, but that original article you linked to is SO INTERESTING AS AN EXPERIENCE and I'm so glad I read it; I'm sorry about the associated Bad Times On The Net :(

and omg omg omg @ your student, good grief I know hands on learning is important but what a brutal abuse of a pipette.

Date: 2019-02-19 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] notasupervillain
Look if I'm not allowed to do that you're not.

Date: 2019-02-19 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] notasupervillain
I bet they don't let undergrads in the hole. Or grant committee members. Or fucking anonymous reviewers OUT OF THE HOLE WITH YOU

Date: 2019-02-19 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] notasupervillain
Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuun

Date: 2019-02-19 09:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kaberett
I really do not think this is you kicking off your own trauma issues. <3

also chILD DO NOT DO THAT TO THE PIPETTE DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW EXPENSIVE THEY ARE NO

Date: 2019-02-19 09:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kaberett
(I mean, I also think it's fascinating because I keep forgetting -- and I really need to write this up, ugh -- that sex is an activity people want to do in and of itself with very limited screening on the other parties, such that my gut reaction to the entire thing is ??????but how???????would that help??????? because Everything About The Setup Is A No for me! Which I think is also relevant to the discussion about perceptions and realities and so on! but yes.)

Date: 2019-02-19 09:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silversandbea
Yeah, logging out of metafilter after that post is probably the best for your mental health. After the last mod cleanup last night, I removed the thread from recent activities and am trying to use good old fashioned will power to avoid checking back in on it.

(I don't have an issue with lesbian identified folks until the conversation gets judgemental of other wlw or terfy, then I've got to back away)

Anyway, the link was interesting! I'm sorry the conversation didn't go better, and hope you feel better soon.

Date: 2019-02-19 10:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glorious_spoon
Ugh, as a bi woman I back-buttoned the hell out of there once I saw those particular comments, I was just so bugged by the dismissal of an experience that almost every bi/pan woman I know has had at least once as, like, some OTT lesbophobic lie. I'm impressed at your graciousness, tbh.

(I have several lengthy rants on this topic, but I'll keep them out of your comments section, lol)

Although that was a really interesting article, if a bit boggling to me, so I appreciate the link.

Date: 2019-02-19 11:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aurumcalendula
ugh that sucks

Date: 2019-02-19 11:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] siderea
Has anybody in this conversation yet pointed out explicitly that characterizing bisexual women as merely straight women who are covertly predatory on lesbians is, like, the canonical gold-standard example of biphobia?

Because I haven't got the time to trawl through all that, but I do have this here bingo card.

ETA: Whoa, yeah, that comment does really change everything. This was an explicitly bisexual-run event for bisexual women, and the author of the original article, who, I would think it fair to assume understood that, repeatedly called the participants straight and basically characterized them as defective lesbians.

"Bisexual erasure" doesn't just mean failing to mention bisexuals. It means insisting – and acting in ways that demonstrate one believes – that bisexuality isn't a thing, that bisexuality isn't real, no one is actually bisexual, and that if someone tells you they're bi, the most charitable possible interpretation is that they're self-deluded, instead of actively deceitful.
Edited Date: 2019-02-19 11:32 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-02-20 12:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
I wanted to shower you with weightless, dustless flowers when I saw what was happening.

Thanks for posting an interesting thing!

(Some students aren't destined for lab life, after all.)

Date: 2019-02-20 12:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hellofriendsiminthedark
Oof. Here's to letting things settle down on their own and picking everything up again later with a fresh start.

Date: 2019-02-20 03:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gentlyepigrams
It never fails that every time I consider re-upping at Metafilter, someone reminds me not to. I'm sorry about your experience and even as a straight woman I give "lesbophobia" a side-eye. I don't have a lot of experience with openly SWERFY dialogue but I've heard enough TERFs talk about lesbophobia that I immediately thought the same thing when I read that post/comments.

Date: 2019-02-20 04:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gentlyepigrams
Yeah, the reason I don't want to go back isn't the thing itself but the way the discussion about the thing (for any number of things) will be handled in MetaTalk. I'm really sorry you're feeling similar hurt feelings and I hope your time away lets you recover some peace.

But yeah, intracommunity fighting is awful. I wish for peace for you there too.
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