the sorrow of my favorite absence
Jan. 23rd, 2019 03:54 pm...but wow, having been spending so much time over on MeFi, I really miss the whisperspace of favorites. (I'm stealing that concept off of ![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
greywash, who had a really interesting piece about it last week.) Here's her on the whisperspace of Tumblr tags:
For those of you on my feed who aren't familiar with the way communication works on Metafilter, basically everyone has accounts and all the discussion happens on topic-centered posts in a nonthreaded chronological format. (It is wonderful. No one is ever going to fuck with my chronological read of threads.) There are no in-line images, no icons, no tags, and usernames only appear at the bottom of the text, so you only see who has written something after you've read it. (Well, ideally, anyway. Especially if they're long-winded, like me.)
But you can hit a little button at the bottom of any post or comment and it will say "you favorited this comment!" And you can see who favorited any given comment--lurkers cannot post or interact in any way, you have to have an account with a login to do anything--and if you follow how many favorites you've gotten for this or that post, you also see a list of everyone who has favorited that comment and when. (Here's an example from a recent comment of mine, which happened to be about Dreamwidth and how much I'm enjoying coming back here.) And anyone reading can see how many favorites any given comment has, right next to the username.
I actually really love this because it is a form of whisperspace communication: it's a part of the conversation that allows those direct social communications to happen totally distinct from the textual conversation itself. It lets community stand besides someone who has made a difficult comment or who is grieving; it helps people "read the room;" and most of all it lets me build the kinds of friendships that don't really require shyer people to come out and talk that much. It lets me, who is a loud person who will talk the ears off a donkey, say "hey! I'm glad you said that!" without actually saying so and derailing things.
Of course, people being people, there is also a strong contingent who think favorites are a popularity contest--and in some ways, they are!--and who think they twist discussion norms to hurt each other. (And there are people who claim to use favorites like bookmarks, kind of like LJ or DW memories/favorites, but I have never understood this arcane concept. I use mine as a medium of communication, which is I think very common.)
But I haven't mentioned the thing I use the favorites for that makes me love them best of all: the ability to do the equivalent of smiling, nodding, and projecting thank you for saying that in a rough conversation, especially one where I'm concerned the other person thinks I'm angrier than I actually am. The ability to try to smooth over a certain amount of conflict by sending affiliative communication over the line, even while I'm still in conflict, and to be able to receive that behavior too. I think it helps people drop defenses and talk to one another, because you can build norms of saying "oh, thank you for saying this!" in a way that lets lurkers participate but also encourages long-form, in-depth conversations and focus. It's very nice.
I'm pretty sure that it's not a high priority here, but it's definitely something I'm wistfully thinking about today.
greywash, who had a really interesting piece about it last week.) Here's her on the whisperspace of Tumblr tags: What the tag whisperspace on Tumblr gave me, essentially, was a way of signaling a break between "this is the media-absorption experience I want you to have of this content" (a thing of which I am incredibly aware, in the specific case of fiction); and "also, fuuuuuuuuck I'm a moron, I totally posted this by accident, which is a thing that signals a sort of touching incompetence on my part that you may find amusing/endearing/cringingly tragic, depending on our social relationship."
In other words: I think a lot of what I miss about tag whisperspace was that it was a clear and intuitive way of signalling a break between the part of a social media post that is media and the part of a social media post that is social.
For those of you on my feed who aren't familiar with the way communication works on Metafilter, basically everyone has accounts and all the discussion happens on topic-centered posts in a nonthreaded chronological format. (It is wonderful. No one is ever going to fuck with my chronological read of threads.) There are no in-line images, no icons, no tags, and usernames only appear at the bottom of the text, so you only see who has written something after you've read it. (Well, ideally, anyway. Especially if they're long-winded, like me.)
But you can hit a little button at the bottom of any post or comment and it will say "you favorited this comment!" And you can see who favorited any given comment--lurkers cannot post or interact in any way, you have to have an account with a login to do anything--and if you follow how many favorites you've gotten for this or that post, you also see a list of everyone who has favorited that comment and when. (Here's an example from a recent comment of mine, which happened to be about Dreamwidth and how much I'm enjoying coming back here.) And anyone reading can see how many favorites any given comment has, right next to the username.
I actually really love this because it is a form of whisperspace communication: it's a part of the conversation that allows those direct social communications to happen totally distinct from the textual conversation itself. It lets community stand besides someone who has made a difficult comment or who is grieving; it helps people "read the room;" and most of all it lets me build the kinds of friendships that don't really require shyer people to come out and talk that much. It lets me, who is a loud person who will talk the ears off a donkey, say "hey! I'm glad you said that!" without actually saying so and derailing things.
Of course, people being people, there is also a strong contingent who think favorites are a popularity contest--and in some ways, they are!--and who think they twist discussion norms to hurt each other. (And there are people who claim to use favorites like bookmarks, kind of like LJ or DW memories/favorites, but I have never understood this arcane concept. I use mine as a medium of communication, which is I think very common.)
But I haven't mentioned the thing I use the favorites for that makes me love them best of all: the ability to do the equivalent of smiling, nodding, and projecting thank you for saying that in a rough conversation, especially one where I'm concerned the other person thinks I'm angrier than I actually am. The ability to try to smooth over a certain amount of conflict by sending affiliative communication over the line, even while I'm still in conflict, and to be able to receive that behavior too. I think it helps people drop defenses and talk to one another, because you can build norms of saying "oh, thank you for saying this!" in a way that lets lurkers participate but also encourages long-form, in-depth conversations and focus. It's very nice.
I'm pretty sure that it's not a high priority here, but it's definitely something I'm wistfully thinking about today.
