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revisiting a lot of my old mantis/nebula meta has gotten me thinking

...so here's a little snippet of something I was working on about six months ago, which I think I might like to revisit.

See, you have two characters here with these wildly different approaches to touch: Mantis, who is a touch empath and also a lot more fragile than Nebula, is someone I rather think has been raised to be rather careful and delicate about who she touches and when (and this will be especially true, given that she lives with Gamora who is quietly horrified by the concept of someone knowing your feelings by touching you). By contrast, you have Nebula, who was raised to be a weapon, doesn't seem to have much interaction with touching outside of combat, and has a very, very high pain tolerance coupled to a very intense desire for emotional intimacy and basically no idea how to go about getting it.

( It struck me that this might spark a bit of a conflict. )

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in which I am greedy

I am tired of soft lesbians. I would not mind them, but they are everything I can find.

Give me hard lesbians: women who have suffered, and women who have caused suffering. Give me survivors. Give me women who know what it is to live in a world that is unforgiving and know how to make love in that world anyway.

Give me broken lesbians: women with scars mental and physical, who are stretching their cut tissue into something functional. Give me women who know what being broken looks like and who know how to put themselves back together again. Give me women who don’t know they are broken and who are trying to fix themselves anyway. Give me women who make bad decisions because they are in pain or never learned how to do better.

Give me experienced lesbians: women who have had sex before and like it (or don’t), women who know what they like and what they don’t, and women who negotiate different opinons on what is good. Give me women who know that they have sensitive nipples (or not) and who prefer stimulation (or not) of different types; give me women with strong opinions about strap-ons, and penetration, and vibration. Give me women who have sex, because that ain’t just something that men do.

Give me conflicting lesbians: give me women whose relationships are imperfect, and messy, and complicated. Give me women who fight about silly things or looming, massive things. Give me women whose relationship is tense sometimes. Give me women who are unhealthy, women who need to break up, and women who have already mentally checked out and are looking for the next place to land.

Give me inexperienced lesbians: give me women who make obvious errors in interpersonal relationships. Give me women who don’t know what they want or how to become acquainted with their bodies. Give me women who don’t know how to be supportive of others, and give me women who don’t know how to care. Give me women who are greedy.

Give me f/f with one lesbian or even no lesbians at all: f/f with bisexual characters, or pansexual characters, or asexual characters. Give me f/f with people who have a variety of experiences, backgrounds, and tastes. Give me f/f with women whose tastes do not match up completely, women who negotiate different orientations or different preferences, and show me how they reach a comfortable medium.

Give me all of these things, because I need them and I want them.

I am tired unto death of soft lesbians. There are only so many iterations on specific well-trod f/f themes that I want to engage in, and soft dollies that sit next to each other and gaze emptily and softly into each other’s eyes is not enough. I want women with personality, with flaws and strengths and sparking character. I want women who step off the page or out of the screen and impress their realness onto my mind. I am greedy for them; I will consume them and roll their lifelike words into my skin.

Why is that so hard to find?

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…because I’m still reading through a bunch of tabs my on my laptop, and I figured other folks might like the links.

Where’s my lesbian porn guide? by

amaresu, who always has some of the best meta on DW, asking where the resources and tools for writing this are five years ago. Responses are interesting, and include one link to longstanding LJ comm

lez_sex_tips, which isn’t exactly fandom oriented but does apparently have a whole lot of women talking frankly about f/f sex and how to make it good.

Someone attempted to put the guide together but apparently got distracted after the first entry. Shame, but the discussion’s good. Requested topics:

mechanics of particular acts, along the lines of “one finger, two fingers, three fingers, dick!” for anal sex, as well as “oh god that will hurt if she does that”

notes about nail trimming came up for fingering; it was pointed out that femme folks with long pointy manicures can and do engage in fingering and even fisting without cutting anyone’s vag to shreds via the magic of nitrile gloves and cotton balls; whether this is in character for any particular person you’re writing at any given time, eh. ehhh.

descriptions of variety and how to handle that for different characters

multiple orgasms: how does that feel?

what the fuck is a g spot and does it even exist? what is the feeling like?

what words can you use without being either too clinical or too, idk, explicit? people seem to get pretty vague; is this a bug or a feature?

strap-ons: how do they work, how do you negotiate the feeling of using one?

how realistic do you have to be, anyway?

More discussions on words to be used in smut. Unsurprisingly, this is a topic for femslash writers. (mons, man. Mons is a good word. Gotta remember that.)

Elsewhere, some anon threads:

What words do you use? I remain horrified at the concept of describing anyone’s “creamy core” mid sex scene, but there’s a lot of good discussion here. Personal takeaways: mons is a nice word, pudenda sounds great unless you, like me, speak enough Latin to know it literally means “the thing she’s ashamed of” or “the thing she should be ashamed of”, quim is just fuckin’ confusing, and I too kind of dislike “vagina” as a word for anything on the outside bits.

Why can’t a lot of femslash writers write good/hot/sexy porn? (Oh my god, nether pearl, no.) Contains a lot of good conversation, including “is femslash really that much more personal to y’all than dudeslash?” Spawned the discussions above.

Otherwise interesting:

How do/should het writers (especially woman-centric het, for lack of a better term) interact with femslash writers? Interesting discussion, if edging into a bit wanky at times. Contains contemplation about whether het shippers and other fans interested in proactively enjoying and celebrating female characters should be paying more attention to femslash. Tends to lump het and gen together, which mildly aggravates me, but eh.

What should I do when I notice heteronormative stuff bleeding into my f/f? I want to be a good queer feminist! Personally, my answer is “breathe, don’t worry about being perfect, because no one is perfect and expecting that out of yourself is mostly just a way to silence yourself. Create what you create, and if you notice themes in your own work that make you uncomfortable, play with what makes you uncomfortable and turn that into art, too.

Because it blew my mind a bit, a perfect description of the stylistic shit that turns me the fuck off so much femslash, which is then attributed to what is apparently a very popular/cliquish femslash archive/LJ comm back in the day. Huh. There is a lot of complaining about this archive in the anon threads I have been browsing through, and frankly, if it’s the reason that the style described here is so fucking omnipresent in the fic I’ve been hunting for I can see why. Grump.

Potential prompt mining: favorite tropes as applied to femslash. This pleases me. I love tropey shit.