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[personal profile] sciatrix
I really, really want to know more about the make-up of asexual communities. Not just because it would be interesting, but because it would be really useful to have that information when it comes to thinking about ways to more effectively help our community.

I mean, there's the 2008 AVEN poll that's pretty big, and that gets cited a lot, and there's the 2004 Bogaert demographics survey, but the thing is that asexual communities have changed dramatically even in just the past year with the AVEN exodus, let alone in the past three years or the past seven years. I'd like to see gender identity numbers now, just to start with; I know the visibility of transgender aces, especially nonbinary aces, has skyrocketed in the past two years.

And I want to see something that's accessible to everyone regardless of their log-in status, not another freaking AVEN poll or something specific to one format of community.

Huh. Is this worth trying to set up, I wonder? There's been a couple of interesting things done by the Asexual Sexologist, but she doesn't seem to be setting up monthly polls anymore at the moment. And anyway, I'd want the raw data, personally--I like playing with numbers and I like having charts to show people.

What demographic questions would be good to see? Offhand, I want to know about things like levels of suicidal ideation, romantic orientation identity breakdowns, relative numbers of asexuals, demis, grey-As and people who identify as sexual in the asexual community, breakdowns of gender identity and trans* identity, age people first identified as asexual vs. age people first found the asexual community, that sort of thing.

And also, what would be the most effective way to send something like this around to as many people as possible? If I'm going to try to get this set up at some point, I'd want it to be properly pan-community, not just DW-specific or tumblr-specific or AVEN-specific. That's the biggest flaw I've seen among so many "pan-community" asexual initiatives--they don't do a good enough job of reaching multiple people.

Huh. Thoughts? I don't know yet whether I'm going to seriously make this go, but I'd really like to and it doesn't seem like any of the academics are doing anything similar.

Date: 2011-08-27 03:42 pm (UTC)
shiyiya: Shiyiya, a very pale white girl with brown hair and eyes. (Default)
From: [personal profile] shiyiya
Delicious data, do want.

Google has those surveys that feed into google docs spreadsheets, right? I don't know what it takes to embed them, but seems like a useful thing and gives you automatically wel-organised data.

I am too tired and headachey right now for more coherent thoughts than that >_> I'll look at this again after I've slept.

Date: 2011-08-27 04:54 pm (UTC)
shiyiya: Shiyiya, a very pale white girl with brown hair and eyes. (Default)
From: [personal profile] shiyiya
I am kind of vague about how they work because I haven't used them but thinkgeek uses them for surveys :P and neatly organized data is handy. And you can download google docs as whatever filetype if it's the interface that's the roblem, though there isn't really an cure for the company deciding to be horrid.

Date: 2011-08-27 04:49 pm (UTC)
aceeccentric: Angel wing with quote "just enough of a bastard to be worth liking" (Default)
From: [personal profile] aceeccentric
My AP Stat class was a long time ago but I would be willing to help with a survey. I guess the best thing to do would be to have it centered on the polling platform and then attempt to promote it everywhere it is possible to promote. Possibly also in non-ace-centered spots, if those were something people had access to, to get people who aren't in ace spaces.

...But also, at the same time, prevent people from trolling the poll :/ I don't even have a clue as to how to sort that out.

Date: 2011-08-27 06:08 pm (UTC)
aceeccentric: Angel wing with quote "just enough of a bastard to be worth liking" (Default)
From: [personal profile] aceeccentric
Oh, hmm. I can see 10 questions not being enough depending on everything we wanted to collect and in what depth. I guess it would possibly be an option to make more than one survey, and link them in succession, but it might be hard to get people to go through with that.

I know a lot of poll services try to block IP addresses from voting more than once, which might cut down a little bit. But other than people being obvious in their answers about being insincere (possibly some fill-in-the-blank questions might help) I'm not educated enough to know what to do about that. Though possibly "large group of people determined to skew results" is not something a lot of pollsters have to worry about.

Date: 2011-08-28 10:46 am (UTC)
kaz: "Kaz" written in cursive with a white quill that is dissolving into (badly drawn in Photoshop) butterflies. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kaz
Ooooh yesssss. And I SO HEAR YOU on the annoying AVEN polls that require login and stuff.

I think the problem with pancommunity is that because we can't very well reach the Centralised List Of All Asexuals, the only thing we can do is reach out to as many people as we know. And that means reaching out to the communities we know. So it'd probably end up being *all* the usual suspects instead of *one* of the usual suspects, you know?

and yeah I have no idea how to advertise this on tumblr without getting trolls. >

Date: 2011-08-28 05:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jenavira
This is a brilliant idea and I would happily spread it around to try to get as many people involved as possible. (I know some aces on LJ who are just not really in any kind of asexual community but would gladly fill out a survey if it were put in front of them.)

Two suggestions. One, always have an other option. I hate surveys, but an other option makes it less awful. Two, I'd be interested in seeing some more traditional demographic data in here as well - age/location/upbringing/income. I've always had the sense that the current ace communities are pretty limited class-wise, and I'd like to see if the data supports that.

Date: 2011-09-06 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] greenchestnuts
My suggestion/request would be to have fill-in boxes. Lots of them, in addition to multiple choice boxes. Because being on the asexuality spectrum is something experienced in such a diversity of ways that even if we sat around and brainstormed for a week we couldn't be sure to include them all.


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